John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

When was the Son first begotten?

Are the Father, God, and the Holy Ghost all one and the same?

Is Jesus God? -- You decide, please read the following.

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Lets start with the following scripture.

Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

He uses the word ‘formed’, before me there was no God formed. So lets think about this for a minute, God was formed by something, this means he was formed by a higher power then his own. God came from somewhere? God had a beginning.

What does it mean to be formed according to the dictionary;

Formed - organized in a way characteristic of living matter

The Father formed God out of himself, the image of the Father, which is the Son, and through the Son the Father created all things, the Son did exactly as the Father did, they are one in Spirit, in purpose and in Word. God came from the bosom of the Father, a Father Son relationship began. God is the first and the last begotten Son of the Father. The Father had begotten a Son, the Son is the Word of the Father, the Word was made flesh is Jesus, therefore Jesus being sent from heaven from the Father is God. Therefore, God is the ONLY begotten Son of the Father. The full name of the Father is Lord Jesus Christ as Jesus said, he came in the name of his Father.
Actually the Hewbrew name that the Son was called is YahuShuah abreviated Y'Shuah also known as Yeshua or Jeshua, but for most today it has been further translated to Jesus. So, using english, All the deciples baptized into Jesus as they completely understood what Jesus ment by this scripture, Matthew 28:19.
Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: That name is YahuShuah which is the unspeakable name YHVH.

John 5:43
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Jesus came in his Father name, which is Jesus (the Word) and Christ (the Holy Ghost).

John 10:25
Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

In my Father’s name I came. What is the name of the Father? Jesus.(YahuShuah)

John 5:26
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Our understanding of the Father is that he always was, he had no beginning and no end. This does not describe God, as he states this himself, before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. God has a beginning: The Alpha and the Omega.

Revelation 22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

God is the first and last begotten Son of the Father.

God is saying that He is the first from the Father and he is the last from the Father.
( Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.)

Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 21:6
And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely

John 4:14
But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Notice that in Rev 21:6 God is giving water of life.
Notice in John that it is Jesus giving the water of everlasting life.

John 4:10
Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

Jesus is God, Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, God is the Word (of the Father) the Word was made flesh, Jesus is the Word made flesh.

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of the Father.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

The Word of the Father is God and this scripture is saying that the Father was at God's beginning as the Father formed God/Word out of His bosom.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

1 John 4:9
In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God (should say Father) sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Notice here that it says the Father sent his ONLY begotten Son into the world. Jesus did not become the begotten Son at his birth on earth, he was sent from Heaven, from the Father, as His ONLY begotten Son.

John 1:18
No man hath seen God (the Father) at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Jesus has seen the Father, he came to reveal the Father as he came from the bosom of the Father.

John 3:16 For God (the Father) so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The Father sent the Word into the world in the form of flesh called Jesus. Believe in Him and his name and receive everlasting life.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The name of the ONLY begotten Son of the Father is Jesus (YahuShuah).

Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

The Father has one Son and that is our God, begotten from the beginning of times, to us His name is Jesus. When you read 'Salvation - according to scripture' you will learn that it is imperative we receive the Holy Ghost in order to enter into His Kingdom. Jesus also received the Holy Ghost from His Father as promised to us all that 'believe' and are baptized in His name. You will NOT have a chance at salvation if you are not born of water and spirit, receive His name at Baptism then receive His Spirit as a Gift to us.
'DO NOT SHORT CHANGE THIS PROCESS' No matter what any man may tell you!

2 Peter 1:17
For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

In the above scripture the Father acknowledges the Son, the only begotten Son of the Father. In the beginning the Father formed his Son, his begotten Son out of his bosom. The Father created all things through his Son, God/Lord. God is the Word of the Father, the Word was made manifest in flesh in the name of Jesus. Jesus came to declare his Father by Word and by deed.


John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

How clear is this folks? The Father is the Head of His Son, the Son is in the body of the Father. The Son, Jesus the Christ (YahuShuah the Messiah)Is the Head of His body and we that our baptized are in His body.
I in my Father and you in Me.

John 14:8
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

What a Powerful statement: Jesus is declaring that he and the Father are essentually one being. They are one in spirit, one in purpose and one in Word. How is this possible?

1:1 In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth.

John 1:18
No man hath seen God (the Father) at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Who was in the bosom of the Father, but the Son. Who is the Son? God(Elohim). Who is God, the Word. Who was Jesus? The Word made flesh, he hath declared him.

John 3:35
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

All things have been given unto the Son, all creation, all judgement and all life.

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The ONLY begotten Son, God, is the Word of the Father. The Word was made flesh through the name of Jesus.

John 14:24
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: And the Word, which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

God is the Word of the Father. The Father sent HIS Word into the world.

John 14:10
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The Words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Jesus again declaring the Father onto us. Jesus (God-Elohim) and the Almighty Father are one but the Son is a different(lessor) manifistation of the Father yet with life of His own.

John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him. If a man love me, he will keep my words: And my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Jesus is saying, the words he speaks is the Fathers, so keep my Words and the Father will love you and WE will abide in you. Therefore, as God/Jesus is the Word of the Father, and if we keep those Words then we too are in oneness with the Father and the Son.

How will the Father and the Son make their abode in someone? By the in-filling of the Holy Ghost, which is the Father and which is the Son. How do we receive the Holy Ghost? According to Acts 2:38 we get baptized in the name of Jesus then we receive the gift from the Father which is the Holy Ghost.

John 17:1
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

The Father and the Son glorifying each other. A perfect oneness relationship.

Isaiah 9: 6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus’ deity was foretold. Notice that the prophet Isaiah seen the fullness of Jesus (YahuShuah)(YHVH).
He is God (Elohim), he is the everlasting Father, he is the Prince of Peace.

Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Jesus is declaring that the Father commissions him. He speaks of their unique relationship of being intimate, and of knowing each other. It is a Father Son relationship. Jesus is also saying he may reveal the Father to anyone of his choosing.

Matthew 20:23
And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: But to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give. But it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Jesus is subordinate to His Father when it comes to who gets what position in heaven and to the placement of each person, as this is predestinated from the beginning. When it comes to the High calling in Christ Jesus there are different levels; "in my Fathers house are many mansions".

Don't be shocked, there are no surprises to the Father, He knows whom will be with Him and those chosened are being tried by fire and chastized and molded and are learning obedience from their sufferings and they will overcome. Even King David suffered at the hand of God until he learned to be obedient to God's Word.

John 14:2
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Mansions: example; a huge house with many rooms and levels; a large imposing residence. Jesus states that it is His Father's house, but notice that Jesus is the one creating or preparing a place for 'us'. All things were created by the Son according to the will of the Father.

Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

As any Father when they see their Son being physically attacked may get over excited and lash out. Of course I am speaking as an earthly father but just maybe Jesus was calming down His heavenly Father. I am not sure why else Jesus would ask the Father to forgive them at this point. Jesus, knowing the pure love of His Father.

Luke 23:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Jesus on the cross as his spirit leaves His body he goes to preach to the saints and removes the keys of hell and of death from Satan.

Luke 24:49
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Jesus speaking of the Holy Ghost, the promise and the gift of the Father.

John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

When did Jesus see the Father do anything? Except in the bosom of the Father Jesus/God has seen the mind of the Father and so he does what he has seen.

John 5:20
For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

The Father is showing Jesus what to do before Jesus does them, like having fore knowledge of an event. Even Jesus has said to us that the Holy Ghost will show us and tell us what to say in a time of need. That my friends would then be the Words of the Father.

John 5:21
For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

Previously I stated that the Father chooses where to place people in heaven but the Son will quicken the ones that has His Spirit in them and has been chosen, the elect.

John 5:22
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Jesus said, I have not come to condemn the world but to save the world. Yet this scripture clearly says that the Son will commence the judgement of mankind on Judgement Day.

John 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father, which hath sent him.

Verifying their relationship as a Father and a Son, and that the Son was sent of his Father to do the will of His Father.

John 5:26
For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

This is where the Father formed the Son and gave him life in the beginning of time as we understand it.

John 5:30
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father, which hath sent me.

Jesus understands fully that he has been formed from the bosom of the Father and through Him the Father does all things. He feels the Father, he hears the Father, he understands the purpose of the Father; they are ONE in all things, if you see Jesus you see the Father.

John 5:36
But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

Jesus is saying he does the works of his Father and his works bear witness of the Father.

John 5:37
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Jesus is speaking of his relationship to his Father and that the persons he is talking to has not heard the Father nor seen him at anytime, save the Son. When they hear the Son they hear His human voice which is different from His spiritual voice. The Father has a spiritual form, Jesus was the Word made flesh, but this is far removed from His spiritual form. Remember the mountain of transfiguration when Jesus revealed His real form.

John 5:45
Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

Speaking of Satan as the accuser.

John 6:27
Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

God is the Father. The word 'God' is used in place of Father many times. But Jesus is God, the Son of the Father. The meat as bread is also the Word of God.

John 6:32
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.

The true bread from heaven is the Word and that Word is Jesus.

John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

The Father calls his chosen His elect and Jesus/God gives the waters of everlasting life.

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.




Lets look at some scriptures from the book of Hebrews

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

The Father spoke his Words to us through his prophets by the Holy Ghost.

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

In the last days the Father spoke his Word to us through His Son. The Son is heir of All that the Father has. The Son created All the worlds from the beginning of times.

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Bright and full of Glory, in the image of his Father, upholding the Word of the Father which gives the Son life and power. Jesus remits the sin of the world through his baptism in His name. Resurrected the Christ and now sits once again, as the right hand of Majesty. He is the hand of the Father and by his Father through his Son all these are done.

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

The Father says to the Son, thy throne, O God, is forever.

10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

In the beginning of times (God/Lord/Jesus) created All things, even heaven, being the right hand of his Father he did the will of his Father. The Father did All things through his Son. The Father and the Son are ONE.

How is this possible; to be exactly the same?

Here on earth when we have a son the son is encouraged to follow his own course in life and hopefully, if we have done a good job as parents, our children should do well.

But, the heavenly Father Son relationship is different. God was formed from the spirit of the Father. That spirit of the Son is identical to the spirit of the Father. If you have a bucket of water and remove a cup of water from it you still have the exact same water. Same properties, same purpose and acts the same as the water in the bucket. The cup of water and the bucket of water are one and the same. The waters of everlasting life.


I seem to find more scripture to prove this everytime I start reading the Bible.

John 8:56
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

John 10:33
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Notice what Jesus said? He is saying that he wrote the law.

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.

38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Isaiah 43
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no Saviour.

Luke 2:11
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

Notice that it says Christ the Lord.(Messiah the Elohim) image Son of the Father.

1 John 4:14
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

The Father sent the only begotton Son into the world. He was sent from heaven to be our Saviour for the remission of the sin of the world and also to reveal the Father to us. He came to redeem His chosen, His elect and His people.

Jude 1:25
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.